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nate_s_sword_sorcery_game_that_s_based_on_the_will_to_power_concept [2017/04/28 21:10] – [The Mechanics] paganininate_s_sword_sorcery_game_that_s_based_on_the_will_to_power_concept [2017/07/10 17:16] (current) – [Notes, July 2017] paganini
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 Generally, a single success is enough to get what you want. The man on the street needs one success to kill or convince. Of course, if there are 10 of them you need 10 successes to defeat the whole angry mob. Naturally, some Obstacles and Adversaries will be more significant. The famous swordsman might need 5 successes all to himself, and the sheer wall of the Crying Magician's tower might need 3 successes to climb.  Generally, a single success is enough to get what you want. The man on the street needs one success to kill or convince. Of course, if there are 10 of them you need 10 successes to defeat the whole angry mob. Naturally, some Obstacles and Adversaries will be more significant. The famous swordsman might need 5 successes all to himself, and the sheer wall of the Crying Magician's tower might need 3 successes to climb. 
  
-If you fail to get as many successes as you needyou must make a choice. You can accept your failure. If you stop now, nothing bad happens. You don't get what you want, but that's all; no further consequences. On the other hand, you can spend Will points and re-roll. Each Will you spend adds more dice equal to the Method that you're using. You still get to use your original dice too. So let's say Grimm is trying to talk his way past a guard. He rolls 3 dice, but sadly doesn't get any successes. If Grimm spends 1 Will, he can retry the roll using 6 dice. If he spends 2 Will, he can roll 9 dice, etc. +If you fail to get as many successes as you need you are stymied and lose one will. You must choose how to proceed: 
  
-The thing is, when you use Will to re-roll, you are taking a riskIf the re-roll fails not only do you not succeed at what you were trying to do, but one of the following happens as welldepending on what Method you were using:+You can spend Will points and roll againEach Will you spend adds more dice equal to the Method that you're using. You still get to use your original dice too. So let's say Grimm is trying to talk his way past a guard. He rolls 3 dice, but sadly doesn't get any successes. If Grimm spends 1 Willhe can retry the roll using 6 dice. If he spends 2 Will, he can roll 9 dice, etc. 
  
-Violent - You suffer Harm +Or, you can accept your failure. If you stop now, you don't get what you want, but you suffer no CONSEQUENCES. 
-Charismatic - You receive a Burden +
-Skilled - You experience a Complication +
-Sorcerous - Your Sorcery runs Amock+
  
 +When you spend Will to roll again, you are taking a risk. If the second roll fails not only do you lose Will and fail at what you were trying to do, as above, but you also suffer one of the following CONSEQUENCES, depending on what Method you were using:
 +
 +  * Violent - You suffer Harm
 +  * Charismatic - You receive a Burden
 +  * Skilled - You experience a Complication
 +  * Sorcerous - Your Sorcery runs Amok
  
 ==== Some Nuances ==== ==== Some Nuances ====
-If you want to, you can spend Will on your very first roll and so use lots of dice right away. If you do, though, you take a risk on that very first roll as well, just as if it were a re-roll.  
  
-The initial "risk free" roll gives you a certain amount of descriptive leeway. If you're rolling to jump across a wide abyss and you succeed, then you made the jump. If you fail and don't spend Will, maybe at the last second you decided it was wider than it looked at first, so you don't make the attempt. If you spend Will to re-roll but still fail, that's when you really jump but don't make it across. +If you want to, you can spend Will on your very first roll and so use lots of dice right away. If you do, though, you risk suffering CONSEQUENCES on that very first roll.  
 + 
 +The initial "risk free" roll gives you a certain amount of descriptive leeway. If you're rolling to jump across a wide abyss and you succeed, then you made the jump. If you fail and don't spend Will, maybe at the last second you decided it was wider than it looked at first, so you don't make the attempt. If you spend Will to roll again but still fail, that's when you really jump but don't make it across.
  
 +The successes you generate from your rolls accumulate. If you have enough Will and want to keep spending it to roll a third, or fourth, etc., time you can do that. Just keep in mind that every such roll that fails to reach your goal generates CONSEQUENCES. So if it takes you four rolls before you finally win, you'll suffer two separate CONSEQUENCES.
  
 ==== Harm ==== ==== Harm ====
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 Harm can affect your character mechanically in two ways, depending on whether or not you have any Will left. Harm can affect your character mechanically in two ways, depending on whether or not you have any Will left.
  
-If you have any Will (even just one point) and you receive enough Harm to bump all the way off the track (i.e., you need to cross off box '5' but it is already crossed off, or you take 6 successes of Harm in one blow) you are Down. The GM decides what happens to your helpless battered and / or unconscious body, how long you're out, and what the circumstances are for your return to the world of the living. Additionally, you receive a Scar. A Scar is some kind of permanent mark left by your traumatic experience. A Scar works like one of the universal Will generators - any time you reference it meaningfully in play you get Will(You will have to work out with the GM what "meaningful" means.) +If you have any Will (even just one point) and you receive enough Harm to bump all the way off the track (i.e., you need to cross off box '5' but it is already crossed off, or you take 6 successes of Harm in one blow) you are Down. The GM decides what happens to your helpless battered and / or unconscious body, how long you're out, and what the circumstances are for your return to the world of the living. Additionally, you receive a Scar. A Scar is some kind of permanent mark left by your traumatic experience. It, perhaps, adjusts your HARM track by adding one to all of the boxes. Mike's alternate idea: You get a new box on the end (so, [6] the first time it happens), and you remove your lowest crossed-off box. So if you are [1][2][X][4][5] and you take 7 points of harm, you become [1][2][4][5][6].
  
 If you have no Will and you receive enough Harm to bump all the way off the track, you die.  If you have no Will and you receive enough Harm to bump all the way off the track, you die. 
  
-Harm heals in two ways. First, your adventurer starts fresh at the beginning of every adventure, no matter what happened last time. Second, any time you gain Will you may uncross one box (the smallest one available) of harm.+Harm heals in two ways. First, your adventurer starts fresh at the beginning of every adventure, no matter what happened last time. Second, any time you gain Will you may uncross your lowest crossed-out box and cross off the one to the left instead. If your lowest crossed out box is the leftmost one, that harm is simply healed. 
 + 
 +---- 
 +Above this line is Nate's draft. Below are Mike's notes from online conversations.
  
 ====== Character Generation ====== ====== Character Generation ======
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 [[About Thornstad]] [[About Thornstad]]
 +
 +====== Notes, July 2017 ======
 +
 +ADVENTURERS
 +
 +The Adventurers are the uber-characters. There may be adventuring NPCs, but no NPC exists on the same terms as an Adventurer. 
 +The Adventurers exist on their own terms, casting down old tablets and building up new ones. 
 +
 +Distribute 10 points among the 4 methods: Skilled, Violent, Charismatic, Sorcerous. Each method must have at least 1 point. 
 +
 +You begin play with 1 Will Power. 
 +
 +
 +REWARD LOOP
 +
 +1. There is a psychological “substance” - Will Power. 
 +
 +This is not a material substance, but an emergent property of the psyche that *seems* real, subjectively. It fluctuates as a simple scalar, like Humanity in Sorcerer or the Pool in The Pool. We can have more or less of it, we consume it to do things, 
 +and if we lack sufficient of it we are stymied. We can call it Will, Power, Willpower, Spoons, Agency, Effectiveness, or simply Points or Dice. In game terms it is the currency of the reward loop.
 +
 +2. What generates it? 
 +
 +Life-affirming things! There are universal life-affirming things available to all:
 +
 +* Rest
 +* Food and drink
 +* Intoxicants
 +* Companionship
 +* Sex
 +
 +In addition, there are personal life-affirming things that reveal the character’s personality. Generally, these have to do with expressing an ideal of some kind and are self-affirming, or self-overcoming. 
 +
 +Examples: practicing a skill, displays of skill, wining a fight, winning an argument, quiet contemplation, studying philosophical texts, praying, meditating, conversing with a respected companion, self-sacrifice to save or help another, resisting temptation
 +
 +There are two parts to a personal life-affirming thing: first, its essence expresses that the character is (or at least feels) *in control* of some specific thing or in some specific way. Second, it reveals some specific facet of the character’s value system. Activating the personal life-affirming thing involves making a choice of some kind. “I give all my money to the poor” involves a concrete choice and sacrifice in exchange for a concomitant buoying up of morale / spirit / feeling of potency.  
 +
 +3. What depletes it?
 +
 +Great deeds! I.e., the RESOLUTION MECHANIC. You can spend it BEFORE rolling to get an extra die, or AFTER rolling to re-roll all the dice you just rolled. 
 +
 +
 +RESOLUTION MECHANIC
 +
 +1. There are two sources of opposition: Obstacles and Adversaries. 
 +
 +An Obstacle is some feature of the material world that is getting in your Adventurer’s way or creating danger. An Adversary is another character acting at cross-purposes with your Adventurer.
 +
 +2. Obstacles are overcome using Skill. All traditional RPG “task” types are incorporated herein - climbing walls, jumping chasms, picking locks, searching libraries, sneaking around, etc. 
 +
 +3. Adversaries are overcome using Violence or Charisma. Violence means real physical contact, not mere threat: you forcefully restrain, harm, or kill the Adversary. Charisma means you manipulate the Adversary. You lie / mislead, intimidate, seduce, etc., them into doing what you want. Good-faith dialogue and negotiation does not engage with the mechanics; just play it out. Using Charisma means you are bamboozling the Adversary; playing on fear, stirring up anger, engaging their lust or avarice, confusing them with clever arguments, etc.
 +
 +4. What about Sorcery?
 +
 +Who the fuck knows. Mike can design it.
 +
 +5. How it works
 +
 +OK. Options:
 +
 +The methods are: 
 +
 +1. A dice pool <- counting successes
 +2. A target number <- means rolling low is good
 +3. A die size
 +4. An additive (i.e., bonus) <- means an extra math step
 +
 +The Obstacles / Adversaries are:
 +
 +1. A fixed static target (i.e., always 10)
 +2. A dynamic static target (i.e., GM chosen DC)
 +3. A fixed dynamic target (i.e., 3d6)
 +4. A dynamic dynamic target (i.e., GM rates difficulty in sorcerer dice)
 +
 +Spending will before rolling increases chance of success:
 +
 +1. More dice
 +2. Larger die size
 +3. Better TN <- seems inelegant
 +4. Straight bonus (+1) <- this one doesn’t combine well with re-rolls
 +
 +Roll 2d6. If you spent Will before rolling, roll 3d6 and drop the lowest one. Add your Skill, Violence, or Charisma, whichever you’re using. If you get 10 or better, you win! Otherwise, you fail. If you fail, you have a choice to make:
 +
 +You can stop here, with no consequence beyond not getting what you want. This is the best you can do at getting this thing, though. You can’t just try again until something seriously changes. 
 +
 +OR
 +
 +You can spend a Will to re-roll all the dice you just rolled. If you get a 10 or better, you win! Otherwise, you fail for good and all. Also, this time when you fail there are Consequences:
 +
 +Violent - You suffer Harm
 +Charismatic - You receive a Burden
 +Skilled - You experience a Complication
 +Sorcerous - Your Sorcery runs Amok
 +
 +Consequences can be either applied immediately, or converted into a Disadvantage to be applied against a future roll, as the GM wishes. The application of a Disadvantage takes this form:
 +
 +“Because of your wound…”
 +“Because Miriam saw through your lies…”
 +“Because you made so much noise…”
 +
 +“…you have a Disadvantage.” 
 +
 +Mechanically, when Disadvantaged, roll an additional die and drop the highest. This sounds like it might get complex, but it really doesn’t. It just means that if you are Disadvantaged and you spend Will up front you roll 4d6 and take the middle two. 
 +
 +Will spent: 3d6, top two
 +Default: 2d6
 +Disadvantaged: 3d6, bottom two
 +Will spent *and* disadvantaged: 4d6, middle two
 +
 +The GM decides whether or not to use the Disadvantage before the player rolls. 
 +If the roll fails and the player spends a will to re-roll, the Disadvantage die gets rerolled too.
 +The Disadvantage goes away after the GM uses it. (I suggest a card-based tracking method).
 +
 +
 +The Fable / Window / Ironclaw Method
 +
 +Each method is rated with a die type - d4, d6, d8, d10, d12. 
 +
 +Choose one of the following sets of dice and distribute among the four methods:
 +
 +5: d12 d4 d4 d4
 +4: d10 d6 d4 d4
 +3: d8  d8 d4 d4
 +2: d8  d6 d6 d4
 +1: d6  d6 d6 d6
 +
 +Also known as: You have 8 die levels to distribute, minimum d4 in each. OR All methods start at d6. You can raise one method one level by lowering a different method one level. 
 +
 +To do a thing, roll that thing’s die. If you get a 4 or better you win. Otherwise you fail. You can spend a Will to re-roll. Spending Will before the roll gives you an extra d6; roll both and drop the lowest one. OR Spending Will before the roll gives you +1 to the roll. OR Spending Will before the roll bumps you up a die size (what happens if you bump up a d12?)
 +
 +
 +The Trollbabe / Runequest Method
 +
 +Each method is a target number. Roll 1d10 vs. that target number. Less-equal to the TN succeeds. Spend will before rolling to roll 1d8.
 +
  
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